Bison
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Post by Bison on Mar 18, 2013 11:18:27 GMT -5
I found this roundtable discussion on the Jihad boys useful. Jonathan Freedland is a cool dude, but Hamza Yusuf got the better of him I thought.
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Post by Bilal The Muezzin on Aug 5, 2013 17:56:15 GMT -5
Swell video. It seemed like three against one. Hamza Yusuf is a bit orthodox though isn't he. Not in this debate. He talked sense here. But when addressing the Muslimeen. Don't believe in Taqiyya, but sheikhs like him do temper their views when the cams roll, if you see what I mean. Dude is kitted out in a suit and tie here instead of the usual Islamic getup. All a bit touched up and air brushed for my liking.
But doesn't everyone do that, put their best foot forward I mean? And who's the Asian academic? New to me.
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Post by Shaytan on Aug 5, 2013 18:57:24 GMT -5
Yeah, never understood his claim to be a Muslim reformer that guy. He is a run-of-the-mill conservative. Says that Ahmadiyyas are not Muslims and that secularism is the enemy. WTF?
Liked the discussion though. Freedland, bless him, was the Cassandra of the lot.
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Post by primitive on Aug 7, 2013 18:00:25 GMT -5
Three guys on that panel were Taqiyya merchants. Liars for Allah. You can never trust a Muslim. William Dalrymple is the biggest propandist for Islam. He's probably a secret Muslim come to think of it.
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Iqra
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Post by Iqra on Aug 7, 2013 19:13:55 GMT -5
I like Hamza. He's a looker. Who needs brains when you have throngs of Muslimas, starved of male attention, throwing themselves at the White Sheikh? The guy is in paradise. They drool over him. I doubt he means any of it anyway. Look at the size of his beard. That's no chin for a mullah. He keeps it closely trimmed and shaves the side to meet Western standards of grooming. Hardly a fanatic. Three guys on that panel were Taqiyya merchants. Liars for Allah. You can never trust a Muslim. William Dalrymple is the biggest propandist for Islam. He's probably a secret Muslim come to think of it. Dalrymple is a true academic with a sense of history, but what would you know about that, mini-Condell?
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Bison
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Post by Bison on Aug 7, 2013 20:41:31 GMT -5
Of the many prayer mat boys in the field, Hamza is the most polished. Likes to name drop Western philosophers in his speech. It's not really intended for the Muslim audience who care little for what the godless think, but for Western listeners. It says, Look, we're not all goat herders and camel shaggers.
No disrespect to camel fockers reading this or the camels so fucked.
I think he has contempt for Muslims because he knows they will not appreciate his academic references. at least the ones who attend Islamic gatherings to give him their ear.
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Post by Alex Lam Meem on Aug 8, 2013 21:50:18 GMT -5
Did you see how long that video is? 44 minutes!!! I will be bored out of my mind and build my own casket before I watch that. Let me guess: some dudes discussing how rantings of a crazy 7th century Arab apply to you and me today? Is that what it's all about? What the hell is wrong with you Bison? Give me some points from the video in your own irresistible , lovely words, then we may have a discussion.
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