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Post by Shaytan on Mar 14, 2013 9:22:35 GMT -5
I find it amusing that when prominent ex-Muslims like Ayaan Hirsi Ali believed in Islam they reflexively sided with their co-religionists in every dispute. My Ummah right or wrong. But when they leave Islam they automatically cheer for America and Israel. In doing so they imagine they have let go of their tribalism, and that they are being cosmopolitan, but they're just replicating its converse.
Never occurs to them that perhaps the solution to tribalism is not to embrace other people's clannish mentality, but to cease to identify with the suffering of just one subset of humanity.
The same is true for Wafa Sultan. Can't say that I'm enthused by having them as my spokesman.
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Post by Bilal The Muezzin on Mar 14, 2013 14:31:17 GMT -5
Isn't it Ayaan Hirsi Ali bearing the child of arch neoconservative Niall Ferguson? Well, when you're literally in bed with chickenhawks, what do you expect. A lot of these guys on the X Muslim speaker's circuit are charlatans like that Walid Shoebat character who was exposed by Anderson Cooper. I'm still giggling.
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Post by Iqra on Mar 15, 2013 10:50:14 GMT -5
The Ummah is just another word for tribalism, and no people are without it.
I find that giving a commonplace phenomenon a foreign name can make it sound more dangerous when it's not.
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Post by Mad Mullah on Mar 15, 2013 12:53:41 GMT -5
Two things happen to prominent Muslim apostates. They become Christian evangelicals or neocons. It's like a precondition for publicity.
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Post by Alex Lam Meem on Mar 15, 2013 15:00:37 GMT -5
Americans have freedom fries, Chinese have funny writing and Muslims have Ummah, let them keep it I say. I say so not because I'm a fan, but because I don't see a way to crush it. IqraI like how you think but what kind of nickname is that for a good ex-muslim girl?
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Post by Iqra on Mar 16, 2013 4:41:48 GMT -5
Alex, Iqra is the last sura of the Quran I memorized before I was pressed into the service of a brothel. ;D An upscale establishment, mind. So riff-raff like you won't be admitted.
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Post by Alex Lam Meem on Mar 17, 2013 9:09:30 GMT -5
Two things happen to prominent Muslim apostates. They become Christian evangelicals or neocons. It's like a precondition for publicity. Well those two allow us to tell it like it is when it comes to xenophobia. The progressive way is to lie that every culture is the best. So what choices does one have when they realize that they've been duped into believing that their culture was the best while it was the most retarded? (No offence to retarded people) IqraDon't talk to me in public
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